Friday, March 04, 2005

On War

Is there anything an individual can do to stop the impending war?

J. Krishnamurti:

War is the spectacular and bloody projection of our everyday life,

is it not?

War is merely an outward expression of our inward state, an enlargement of our daily action. It is more spectacular, more bloody, more destructive, but it is the collective result of our individual activities.

Therefore,

you and I are responsible for war and what can we do to stop it?

Obviously the ever-impending war cannot be stopped by you and me, because it is already in movement; it is already taking place, though at present chiefly on the psychological level. As it is already in movement, it cannot be stopped- the issues are too many, too great, and are already committed.

But you and I, seeing that the house is on fire, can understand the causes of that fire, can go away from it and build in a new place with different materials that are not combustible, that will not produce other wars. That is all that we can do. You and I can see what creates wars, and if we are interested in stopping wars, then we can begin to transform ourselves, who are the causes of war.

Obviously what causes war is the desire for power, position, prestige, money; also the disease called nationalism, the worship of a flag; and the disease of organized religion, the worship of a dogma. All these are the causes of war; if you as an individual belong to any of the organized religions, if you are greedy for power, if you are envious, you are bound to produce a society which will result in destruction.

To bring about peace in the world, to stop all wars, there must be a revolution in the individual, in you and me. Economic revolution without this inward revolution is meaningless, for hunger is the result of the maladjustment of economic conditions produced by our psychological states – greed, envy, ill-will and possessiveness. To put an end to sorrow, to hunger, to war, there must be a psychological revolution and few of us are willing to face that. We will discuss peace, plan legislation, create new leagues, the United Nations and so on and on; but we will not win peace because we will not give up our position, our authority, our money, our properties, our stupid lives.

What will bring peace is inward transformation which will lead to outward action. Inward transformation is not isolation, is not a withdrawal from outward action. On the contrary, there can be right action only when there is right thinking and there is no right thinking when there is no self-knowledge. Without knowing yourself, there is no peace.

If you realize the suffering, if you see the urgency of immediate action and do not postpone, then you will transform yourself; peace will come only when you yourself are peaceful, when you yourself are at peace with your neighbour.

1948, second public talk, Bangalore, India


Scott Ritter, former UNSCOM weapons inspector says that the geographic state of the United States is going to War with Iran in June.

Seymour Hersh, the award winning jounalist is saying the same thing.

The POTUS says it is rediculous.

You can say that again.

This will be a real war,

Not some video game

that you watch on CNN.

It's the oil you know.





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10 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Build a new place and someone else will want it. Someone even wants the Sudan. Even when willing to let live there is some fool out there that isn't, human naure is such that we all like action to stimulate ourselves and war is the ultimate ....

besides didn't the man say, "simply rediculous."

7:09 AM  
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7:12 AM  
Blogger polit thoughts said...

Yoda said: "There is no try. There is only do." I say, "There is no think either." We must put the fire out. I also say, "There is no new house."

11:59 AM  
Blogger OZ said...

Watch out you might get what you're after
Cool babies strange but not a stranger
I'm an ordinary guy
Burning down the house

Hold tight wait till the party's over
Hold tight We're in for nasty weather
There has got to be a way
Burning down the house

Here's your ticket pack your bag: time for jumpin' overboard
The transportation is here
Close enough but not too far, Maybe you know where you are
Fightin' fire with fire

David Byrne

12:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

War is never necessary, and is counter-productive, evil, and immoral. Each nation and individual has a right to and must be prepared to defend itself. The preceding two statements are not totally contradictory; we must become smarter about how we defend ourselves.

So far, we are winners of my war, the Cold War, without firing the shot that would have ended civilization on Earth. I served six years as a regular officer in the Strategic Air Command of the United States Air Force. We worked very hard, we accomplished the mission assigned to us, but think what the thousands of young officers with scientific degrees who served with me could have accomplished with the billions of tax dollars at our disposal had we been developing sources of renewable energy. Perhaps competition for earthly resources that has been a factor in past world wars, in today’s terrorism, and which will be a factor in future wars could have been transcended. Perhaps the quality of life experienced by ALL inhabitants of Earth could have been improved by orders of magnitude. If only we had been led by a government with the foresight to visualize the long term and to always tell the truth.

Now it is our turn and our duty to provide vision and leadership. We must lead to eradicate war without futilely trying to eradicate human competitiveness. CHF

1:17 PM  
Anonymous Krishnamurti said...

"This craving for position, for prestige, for power, to be recognized by society as being outstanding in some way, is a wish to dominate others, and this wish to dominate is a form of aggression. And what is the reason for this aggressiveness? It is fear isn't it?"

11:11 PM  
Blogger memo said...

The last sentence in OZ's post hit it on the head. IT IS ABOUT THE OIL. All the talk about freedom, terrorism, and ideology are just smoke and mirrors. The war in Iraq was about the oil and having a beach head in the middle east. The Saudi's no longer want our military presence in their country, so securing the oil and a place from which to launch future military actions was necessary. If you look at the situation objectively, the people calling the shots are the oil men. I do not know if any one else reading earthfamilyalpha is familiar with oilfield culture, but in the oilfield the "company men" call the shots. As a group they are arrogant and uninterested in the welfare of other people on the planet. They consider access to the oil under the suface of this world their divine right and opposition to their access at worst a minor irritant. Their machines are more important to them than the people working for them, so why would anyone believe that they have any concern for using nations and nature to further their own goals. I have seen them in action at close range and compassion is not one of their virtues.

12:43 PM  
Blogger OZ said...

Condi Rice set up war in her interviews yesterday.

thanks all, especially Mr. K. for the comments.

2:40 PM  
Blogger Charlie Loving said...

Are there really two types of people, the war lovers and the pacifists? War for war's sake is a crime against humanity so we have war for other sakes and oil is the one we are zeroed on now.

5:54 PM  
Blogger OZ said...

there are those who know that violence begets violence, and peace begets peace. there are many more who believe that might makes right and that power is king.

But words are power, and
a war of words can be won nonviolently.

sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can actually kill you.

9:55 AM  

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